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OpenBSD Mailing lists![[<b>OpenBSD</b>]](http://www.openbsd.org/mail.html/images/smalltitle.gif) Mailing ListsMailing lists are an important means of communication among users anddevelopers of OpenBSD. With the exceptions of announce andsecurity-announce, the lists are not moderated. We deliberatelyrestrict the number of different mailing lists.This helps reduce the amount of cross-posting and makes sure that theinformation gets distributed to a wide audience.NetiquetteBe considerate of other subscribers on the mailing lists.Plain text, 72 characters per lineMany subscribers and developers read their mail on text-based mailers(mail(1), emacs, Mutt)and they find HTML-formatted messages, or lines that stretch beyond 72characters often unreadable.Most OpenBSD mailing lists strip messages of MIME content beforesending them out to the rest of the list.If you don't use plain text your messages will be reformatted or,if they cannot be reformatted, summarily rejected.The only mailing list that allows attachments is the ports list,they will be removed from messages on the other mailing lists.Do your homework before you postIf you have an installation question, make sure that you have read the relevantdocuments such as the INSTALL.* text files in the FTP installation directories, the FAQ and the relevant man pages (start withafterboot(8)),and check the mailing list archives.We want to help, but we wouldn't want to deprive you of a valuablelearning experience, and no one wants to see the same question on thelists for the fifth time in a month.Include a useful Subject lineMessages with an empty Subject will get bounced to the list manager andso they will take longer to show up. Including a relevant Subject in the messagewill ensure that more people actually read what you've written.Also, avoid Subject lines with excessive capitalization."Help!" or "I can't get it to work!" are not useful subject lines.Do not change the subject line while on the same topic. YOU may knowwhat it is regarding, the rest of us who get several hundred messages aday will have no idea.Trim your signatureKeep the signature lines at the bottom of your mail to a reasonablelength. PGP signatures, and those automatic address cards are merelyannoying and are stripped out. Legal disclaimers and advisories arevery annoying, and inappropriate to public mailing lists.Stay on topicPlease keep the subject of the post relevant to users of OpenBSD.Include important informationDon't waste everyone's time with a hopelessly incomplete question.No one other than you has the information needed to resolve yourproblem, it is better to provide more information than needed than onedetail too little. Any question should include at least theversion of OpenBSD (i.e.,"3.2-stable", "3.3-current as of July 20, 2003"). Any hardware relatedquestions should mention the platform (i.e., sparc,alpha, etc.), and provide a fulldmesg(8).Hardware model numbers, unfortunately, don't indicate much about theactual content of a particular machine or accessory, and are useless toanyone who doesn't have that exact machine sitting where they can easilyrecognize it. The dmesg(8) tells us exactly what is IN your machine,not what stickers are on the outside.Respect differences in opinion and philosophyIntelligent people may look at the same set of facts and come tovery different conclusions. Repeating the same points that didn'tconvince someone previously rarely changes their mind and irritates allthe other readers.Do not cross-post or repeat postPosting the same message to multiple lists and/or multiple timesdoes not increase the likelihood of getting a useful response, but islikely to irritate the people you want to help you. If you didn't get asatisfactory response the first time you posted to an appropriate list,it is usually because you provided insufficient or unclear information.Don't simply repost the same message.SpamThe OpenBSD mailing lists usespamd(8) in greylisting mode as well asSpamAssassin to keep down thespam volume but things do sneak through--deal with it.In addition, the list server also has regex-based rules to rejectbased on some common spam and virus telltales.If you get spam through one of the OpenBSD mailing lists, you don't need tosend a copy to the list owner--chances are he's already seen it. Also, please do not submit spam received through themailing lists to spamcopas this will result in the list server being added to their RBL.Complaining about and commenting upon spam on the list properis counter-productive as it generates more traffic than the spam itself.Note that if you are sending mail from a dynamic IP address youwill probably not be able to post to the mailing lists.In this case you should use a smart host sendmail configurationthat utilizes your ISP's mail server. See the comments in/usr/share/sendmail/cf/openbsd-proto.mc for how to do this.The Mailing ListsGeneral Interest ListsThese lists are of interest to most users of OpenBSD.miscUser questions and answers, general questions. This is the mostactive list. Please, read the FAQ and theinstallation documents, and see How to report aProblem before posting.advocacyPromoting the use of OpenBSD. Non-technical discussions inmisc often get shunted here.announceImportant announcements. This low volume list is excellent forpeople who just want occasional news about the project.security-announceSecurity announcements. This low volume list receives OpenBSDsecurity advisories and pointers to security patches as they becomeavailable.portsDiscussions about using and contributing to the 'ports' source tree.ports-securitySecurity announcements for ports and packages. This low volumelist receives OpenBSD security advisories concerning the ports treeand packages with more information about the vulnerabilities andpatches.wwwDiscussion of the OpenBSD Website.Developer's ListsThese lists are for technical discussions of aspects of OpenBSD. Theyare NOT for beginning or average users, they are not for problemreporting (unless you are including a good fix), and they are not forinstallation problems. If you have any question about if a messageshould be posted to any of these lists, almost invariably, it should notbe. Use misc, above, instead. Please do not cross postto multiple lists.bugsBug reports as sent in viasendbug(1)and follow-up discussions. If you wish to have your message loggedby the GNATS bug tracking system, replyto gnats@openbsd.org, gnats@ will then forward to bugs@.ipv6Discussion of IPv6 and IPsec in OpenBSDports-bugsDiscussion regarding bugs within the OpenBSD ports treesmpDevelopment of multiprocessorsupport in OpenBSD. Offers to "help test" and complaints about it notbeing completed yet are not appreciated. Code, however, is welcome.techDiscussion of technical topics for OpenBSD developers and advancedusers. This is not a "tech support" forum, do not use it assuch.OpenBSD developers will often make patches to implement new featuresand other important changes available for public testing through thislist.x11Discussion of X11 development within OpenBSDPlatform Specific ListsThese lists are focused on user issues and development on individualplatforms.alphaOpenBSD/alpha portarmOpenBSD/zaurus port and other ARM porting effortshppaOpenBSD/hppa portmac68kOpenBSD/mac68k port (not PowerPC Macintosh systems)m88kOpenBSD/aviion, OpenBSD/luna88k and OpenBSD/mvme88k portsppcOpenBSD/macppc and other PowerPC porting effortssgiOpenBSD/sgi portsparcOpenBSD/sparc and OpenBSD/sparc64 portsvaxOpenBSD/vax portCVS Changes Mailing ListsEvery time a developer commits a change to the OpenBSD CVS tree, a message is mailed out to all the subscribersof these lists, containing the commit comments. source-changesAutomated mail-out of CVS source tree changes in all the repositoriesother than ports.ports-changesAutomated mail-out of ports-specific CVS source tree changes.CTM ListsA number of mailing lists are used by the CTM, an alternative source change distribution system. See the CTM page for details.Managing Mailing List Membership viaMajordomoIf you want to be sent a complete list with all mailing lists availableat openbsd.org, send the command "lists" on the body ofa message tomajordomo@OpenBSD.org.To subscribe to a given list, send mail tomajordomo@OpenBSD.orgwith a message body of "subscribe mailing-list-name".For further assistance, send a message body of "help"to majordomo@OpenBSD.organd you will receive a reply outlining all your options. Your domainMUST resolve properly or the mail will not go through!Managing Mailing List Membership viaWebYour membership to the OpenBSD mailing lists can also be managed viaa web interface at:http://lists.openbsd.org/Mailing Lists TricksThere are a number of very useful options that can be selected, eitherby the web interface or throughMajordomo. You can changeyour email address without having to unsubscribe and resubscribe, youcan temporarily disable your message delivery for a few days while you go onvacation, and much more. The user is invited to spend some time readingthrough the options, available by sendingMajordomo a messagecontaining "help" as the body text, or through the"Help" tab of the webinterface.As an example, if you were going on vacation for two weeks and didn'twish to come back to several thousand e-mails, you can disablemessage delivery by the mail server for the time of your vacation and havedelivery automatically resume upon your scheduled return using the command: set ALL nomail-14dThis will suspend your subscription to all mail lists for 14 days(-14d). More details and options can be seen on the Majordomooverview page.DigestsIf you would prefer to see a "digest" (a consolidated listing of all themessages for a time period), rather than getting messages individuallyin "real-time" form, you can use the commands: set misc digest-daily set source-changes digest-weeklyfor daily digests of the misc list, and weekly digests of thesource-changes list. Yes, multiple commands can be placed in oneMajordomo email.Other Mailing ListsThe fine folks atsquish.net run mailinglists with daily and weekly digests of the OpenBSD source-changesand ports-changes mailing list. This is handy for those whodon't like the typically high volume of these lists.The insomniac at benzedrine.cxmaintains the pf list for people using the OpenBSDpacket filter. To subscribe:echo subscribe | mail pf-request@benzedrine.cxA mailing list for OpenBSD FTP, Web, AnonCVS and CVSup mirror maintainers isavailable at rt.fm.Non-English ListsSeveral non-English speaking mailing lists related to OpenBSD are availableseparately. Here is a list of the currently known mailing lists:Dutch:openbsd@list.ii.nlTo subscribe, visit the URL at:http://list.ii.nl/listinfo/openbsd.French:misc@openbsd-france.orgTo subscribe, visit the URL at:http://www.openbsd-france.org/ml/.German:liste@openbsd.deTo subscribe, please visit the URL at:http://www.openbsd.de/mailingliste.shtml.Italian:sikurezza.org, an Italian languagenon-commercial security portal hosts openbsd@sikurezza.org.To subscribe just send an empty message to openbsd-subscribe@sikurezza.org.Japanese: Please visit the URL at:http://www.openbsd.ics.nara-wu.ac.jp/wakakusafor more information.Polish:openbsd@lists.bsd.org.plTo subscribe, send mail with subject "subscribe" toopenbsd-request@lists.bsd.org.pl.Portuguese:openbsd@neei.uevora.ptTo subscribe, visit the URL at:http://neei.uevora.pt/mailman/listinfo/openbsd/.Russian: openbsd@openbsd.ruTo subscribe, send mail tominimalist@openbsd.ru withsubject "subscribe openbsd".Slovenian:to subscribe please visit the URL athttp://obsd.17slon.org/mailinglist.phpSpanish:OpenBSD-Mexico@googlegroups.com, run from Mexico.To subscribe, please visithttp://groups.google.com.mx/group/OpenBSD-MexicoUkrainian:openbsd@uaoug.org.uaTo subscribe, send mail toopenbsd+subscribe@uaoug.org.uaMailing List Archives:These mailing list archives are not managed by the OpenBSD project.Take the time to look at more than one -- each is a little different,and has different search abilities. If you don't find an answer inone, check another.SigmasoftMonkey.orgMARCGmane@netsys.comNeohapsis has amixed archivefor tech@, misc@ and ports@ and amixedarchive for CVS commitsArchives and trafficgraphs, hosted by OpenBSD.nu, of the vast majority of the officialOpenBSD mailing lists.General search engines, such asGoogle also prove very effective atfinding answers to OpenBSD questions.RSS Feeds:There are also some RSS feeds available. Most recent web browsers willsupport RSS feeds, but there are also a number of RSS readers available.The RSS feeds are not managed by the OpenBSD project.OpenBSD JournalOpenBSD Errata (provided by the OpenBSD Journal) www@openbsd.org$OpenBSD: mail.html,v 1.110 2008/09/04 09:55:21 sthen Exp $ |
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