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Title: Software/Operating Systems/Unix/SCO/Boycott, Lawsuits/DoS Attacks - President of OSI Responds to SCO's DoS Claims Eric S. Raymond reacts with suitable, short, indignant response, saying: "This is a baseless slur, unsupported by facts." Several forum comments. [LWN: Linux Weekly News] (May 6, 2003) |
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President of OSI responds to SCO's DoS claims [LWN.net] Not logged inLog in now Create an account Subscribe to LWNSponsored linkVyatta –Linux & Open SourceAlternative to Cisco –Advanced Routing,Firewall, VPN, QoS..Free Download ->Recent FeaturesLWN.net Weekly Edition for September 4, 2008 The Kernel Hacker's Bookshelf: UNIX Internals DRI, BSD, and Linux SCHED_FIFO and realtime throttling LWN.net Weekly Edition for August 28, 2008 Printable page Weekly edition Kernel Security Distributions Search Archives Calendar Subscribe Write for LWN LWN.net FAQPresident of OSI responds to SCO's DoS claims[Posted May 7, 2003 by corbet] From: "Eric S. Raymond" <esr@snark.thyrsus.com>To: wire-service@snark.thyrsus.comSubject: President of OSI responds to SCO's DoS claimsDate: Tue, 6 May 2003 23:41:49 -0400In a press release today, SCO suggests that the Linux community may be responsible for the denial-of-service attack on its servers thatoccurred on Friday, May 2nd.This is a baseless slur, unsupported by facts. Anyone tempted totake it seriously should note that neither the Linux community nor the wider open-source community of which it is part has any pastrecord of such behavior. If we fought our battles in those terms,Windows is a sufficiently vulnerable target that we would haveseverely hammered certain much larger adversaries years ago.News accounts suggest that the machines subverted into performing theattack were Windows boxes. It would be more reasonable to supposethat the attack was the work not of anyone in the Linux community butof a Windows-based cracker-underground gang that is sympathetic to usand has decided to fight for the "good guys". If that's so, we rejectsuch misguided assistance. Any pro-Linux crackers out there shouldstand down *now* and refrain from any such offensives in the future.We cannot accept such `help' and remain the good guys.Let there be no mistake about this. We in the Linux communitydo *not* regard denial-of-service attacks or any other form of criminal trespass as a legitimate tactic in disputes. Sustainedas we are by our shared belief that our open-source development model is a better way, we are too proud to fight dirty.Finally, shame on SCO for attempting to use slurs and insinuations towin in the court of public opinion the anti-Linux verdict that thefacts[1] will not entitle them to in court.I have drafted this statement alone in order to get it out during the current news cycle, but I am in no doubt that other Linux andopen-source community leaders will join me in rejecting both SCO's accusation and any use of DoS tactics against SCO or other adversaries.We will win our fight. But we'll do it cleanly, not by attackingSCO but by refuting their ludicrous accusations and outcompetingthem in the free market.-- Eric S. Raymond President, Open Source Initiative www.opensource.org[1] See "OSI Position Paper on the SCO-vs.-IBM Complaint" at http://www.opensource.org/sco-vs-ibm.html (Log in to post comments) President of OSI responds to SCO's DoS claims Posted May 7, 2003 13:06 UTC (Wed) by microlhk (guest, #7619) [Link] Well, SirYou do not have to waste your time on SCO.SCO is obsolete, technologically irrelevant, and made an insane attempt to rip-off open source contributors.No need to worry, courts can find plenty of perfectly documented evidence on LKML and at kernel.org.IMO, SCO may well have orchestrated this "attack" for publicity.Let's really deny them - attention, coverage, contributions, usage ...Michael Frank President of OSI responds to SCO's DoS claims Posted May 7, 2003 18:48 UTC (Wed) by kalifa (guest, #11045) [Link] However ridiculous may SCO's whining be, I am tired of ESR's self-proclaimed role as a spokesperson for the "community". Incidentally, I don't think true libertarians can be megalomaniac or control freaks. President of OSI responds to SCO's DoS claims Posted May 7, 2003 19:13 UTC (Wed) by skybunny (guest, #4478) [Link] I have drafted this statement alone in order to get it out during the current news cycle, but I am in no doubt that other Linux andopen-source community leaders will join me in rejecting both SCO's accusation and any use of DoS tactics against SCO or other adversaries.I'm sorry, but what about the above makes any suggestion that ESR should have no role as a spokesperson for the community? He is (as in, one of many) a community spokesperson, and sent out a press release quickly in the name of damage control and to make a quick rebuttal to SCO's claims. If other spokespeople (heaven knows why they'd support defacing SCO's website) disagree with Eric S. Raymond's point of view here, they can feel free to respond in turn, and will be heard.Eric S. Raymond is one of several Important People in and around the free software and open source community. What he has to say bears weight, or he wouldn't have bothered making a press release at all. I for one am glad he said what he did, and quickly.Perhaps you'd prefer a completely decentralized, idealless, and voiceless community, where all the time is spent figuring out who is important enough to defend the community - rather than...actually defending it? That's exactly what SCO would like... President of OSI responds to SCO's DoS claims Posted May 7, 2003 20:10 UTC (Wed) by proski (subscriber, #104) [Link] The reference to "Windows-based cracker-underground gang" sounds just wrong. It doesn't matter if it was a gang or an individual, and whether they were Windows-based or Linux-based, or, say, KA9Q-based.Even if the perpetrators were using only open source software it doesn't make the developers of said software responsible for the actions of those users. President of OSI responds to SCO's DoS claims Posted May 8, 2003 9:04 UTC (Thu) by mfuerstenau (guest, #11059) [Link] Well I think it is time that the members of UnitedLinux and all other linux organisations will immediately kick out SCO. I have cancelled my developer network account. The old SCO was nice. Caldera (at the beginning as a dream of Ray Noorda) was nice, but the new one is nearer to M$ than to any *ix company i know. So kick them out. Kick them out of every board, every organisation, every whatever. No hardware information for the development of drivers. Nothing. Embargo.Martin FuerstenauGermany President of OSI responds to SCO's DoS claims Posted May 12, 2003 11:02 UTC (Mon) by xoddam (subscriber, #2322) [Link] Nah, kill 'em with kindness. Give free software advancementawards to people on SCO's payroll. Speaking of which, whydid Vinod Valloppillil never get one? Copyright © 2003, Eklektix, Inc. Comments and public postings are copyrighted by their creators. 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