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This article is based on material authored by members of the
news.newusers.questions
Moderation Board and nnq-workers mailing
list,
particularly by Jon Bell (until 2005)
and Thor Kottelin (since 2007).
Creating new newsgroups
Think twice
Before you get too far into trying to create a newsgroup, you should
first make sure that you really want to do this.
Learn about the various kinds of
forums that you can create on the net,
and decide which kind fits your purposes best.
Choose your hierarchy
After that, if you're still set on creating a newsgroup, you need to
decide next what kind of newsgroup you want to create. More technically,
you need to decide which top-level hierarchy you want to
put the group in. That is, will it be a comp group, a
rec group, an alt group, a us
group, or what? Different hierarchies of newsgroups have different rules
for creating new groups.
Guidelines for choosing a
hierarchy
International topics
If the topic is of broad international interest, then the logical
place is an international hierarchy such as one of the Big Eight
(comp, humanities, misc,
news, rec, sci, soc, and
talk) or alt.
The choice between the Big Eight and alt is basically a
tradeoff between ease of creation and speed of "propagation" of the new
group (that is, how rapidly it gets created on the tens of thousands of
news servers all over the globe). Creating a new group in the Big Eight can
be a rather drawn-out and politicized process (figure at least
two or three months from start to finish), but once you've completed the
process successfully, most servers will add the new group fairly rapidly.
Creating a new alt group can be very quick (perhaps a couple
of weeks), but it can take a long time for a significant number of servers
to add the group, and they may need prodding from their own users.
Also, some smaller servers don't carry alt groups at all.
Regional or local topics
If the topic is basically of local or regional interest, you should
look for an appropriate national, regional, or local newsgroup hierarchy.
We list sources of information for some of these below; for others, look
for a *.general or *.config group in the
hierarchy and look for, or ask about, the proper procedures.
How groups are technically created
Fundamentally, no matter what the hierarchy,
the process of technically creating a new group starts
when someone posts a newgroup control
message.
This special kind of message asks news server administrators everywhere to create the
group locally on their servers.
Depending on which hierarchy the control
message is for, and on who sent the control message, and on how a
particular server is configured, the server may do one of the
following:
create the group automatically
forward the request to the server administrator, who then decides
whether to create the group manually
ignore the request completely
Most hierarchies have a designated maintainer who, by general custom
and/or agreement, is the official source of newgroup control messages
for that hierarchy. The single most important exceptions are the
alt and free hierarchies,
where (in principle) anyone can post a control
message. In most cases, there is a widely-accepted procedure which one
must or should follow in order for an official control message to be
posted, or before you post a control message yourself.
Newsgroup creation in various
hierarchies
International hierarchies
Big Eight Usenet newsgroups
The Big Eight management policies were reformed in 2006.
Guidelines for creating new groups are available on the
Big Eight management board's web site.
alt newsgroups
In the alt hierarchy, you post a proposal for the group in
alt.config,
and give some justification for it. Listen to
suggestions and advice, and make any changes that seem appropriate (e.g.
regarding the name of the group). When you get to a point where there are no
significant objections, post the newgroup control message yourself, or ask
someone in alt.config to do it for you.
There is no
official source of newgroup control messages in alt. If
you post a newgroup control message against significant objections, you
can expect that someone will post rmgroup control messages
(requests for servers to remove a group) to try to block the effects of
your newgroup messages.
You should read alt.config for a
while and see what happens there, before you try to make a proposal
yourself.
You might also want to read the
"So you want to create an alt newsgroup"
FAQ
written by David Barr.
biz newsgroups
The biz hierarchy is for commercial and business-related
newsgroups.
See the biz FAQ.
free newsgroups
free is a hierarchy where the only rule is "do whatever
you want as long as you're not destroying somebody else's words".
Consequently, there are no rules against creating new groups.
Of course there is neither any guarantee that any news server will carry your group.
More information is available in the
free FAQ.
Language-based hierarchies
de newsgroups
The de hierarchy
is for newsgroups with discussions in
the German language. It is not restricted to Germany-specific topics.
fr newsgroups
The fr hierarchy is for newsgroups with discussions in
the French language. It is not restricted to France-specific topics.
The newsgroup creation process for fr is explained - in French, naturally -
on the page
Comment créer un forum fr.
Regional hierarchies
aus newsgroups
The aus hierarchy
is a national hierarchy for Australia.
be newsgroups
The
be hierarchy
is a national hierarchy for Belgium.
The primary languages are Dutch (Flemish) and French.
es newsgroups
The es hierarchy
is a national newsgroup hierarchy for
Spain. The primary language is Spanish.
nl newsgroups
The
nl hierarchy
is a national hierarchy for the
Netherlands. The primary language is Dutch.
sfnet newsgroups
The
sfnet hierarchy
is a national hierarchy for Finland.
The primary language is Finnish.
uk newsgroups
The uk hierarchy
is a regional hierarchy for the United
Kingdom (of Great Britain etc.).
us newsgroups
The us hierarchy
is a national hierarchy for the United
States of America.
Moderated newsgroups
If you are thinking of creating a moderated newsgroup (in which all
postings are automatically forwarded to a moderator for approval before
being posted), you should read the following:
Denis McKeon's
Moderated Groups FAQ,
which discusses general and technical aspects
of newsgroup moderation
Russ Allbery's
Pitfalls of Newsgroup Moderation FAQ,
which discusses things that can
go wrong with moderating a newsgroup, that prospective newsgroup
moderators should be aware of. (Russ is a moderator himself and has
witnessed the discussion of many proposals for moderated groups.)
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